Mass Effect

[fabulousfreesia]

I had WA 6800, EMS = WA / 2 (50%). And I had almost all the sequences.
The most important was missing (EMS = 5000);)
But I'll just load the save before London and pop the last sequence. I will only score in multi to 100%, although I don't have to, but honestly it's fun.

[Poison Ivy]

And fuck, three parts of playing for a few minutes of animation from the hat;] The ending raises more questions than answers. If only. The closure of the plot is full of inaccuracies, and maybe even contradictions. Where's the logic? Where are the explanations ?! Though you have to admit they have the momentum motherfucker

[Eredin]

1) SI per bank.
2) My theory is that it's a holdover from the first organic ... who lost.
3) Fuck wi.
From this argument, I understood that there was a chance that another AI would kill the organic completely.
The most pointless sequence. And the other person (after EDI, or if EDI is destroyed) is always the one you knocked. But how do you explain the fact that EDI and Ash were running after me in London and should ... die?
1) Synthesis the first time
2) The second one is destroyed and it's the only correct ending (then Shepard doesn't die if you have 5k EMS)

[Vanity Fair]

I know that SI, but I would like something more. Being a remnant of the first organics quite coherently explains the overwhelming technical advantage. After their fathers were destroyed, they had plenty of time to develop. Thus, they achieved such a high ceiling, mass relays and reapers.

I am interested in one thing - to what extent the Reapers were individual entities (they had some selves, no doubt), and to what extent were ordinary tools, dependent on the will of the Catalyst. Did the Catalyst control them on a regular basis, or did it set one control program at the dawn of time? Or were they part of one all-encompassing collective AI? It seems that in sf higher beings strive for unification (geths, wanders). Well, because the Catalyst is alone, where is the rest?

Did Catalyst at some point not find that the connection to the Crucible (which has something of every previous civilization to it) changed him? Perhaps this is the key to interpretation. We don't know what he was like before the merger. Perhaps this variety of mentality was more diametrical than we believe. Would there be any peace without it?

And the most important question - why would AI defend organic life? Almost every explanation raises some kind of contradiction. Mine oscillates according to the following:
Leto II took control of the galaxy for over 3k years to create a man free from the stigma of precognition. To ensure humanity remains in a universe where it will independently shape its fate.
Perhaps the Catalyst initiated cycles with a similar thought, in anticipation of an organic life that would be ready to face synthetics. Make up for yourself. Had it not been for this, the earlier, unprepared races would not have been able to stop the AI, thus doomed to destruction and future generations. And if synthesized at first, the element SI would dominate the new "DNA", which would make no sense. In that case, the connection to the Crucible was a ready signal.
But we still don't know - why. What do synthetics need organic life for? In fact, they held back themselves. In the case of synthesis, it can be assumed that it was about achieving the ideal. Perfect being.

[Alfa]

1) Take the correction that the Reapers are "organic synthetics", each Reaper is the essence of a species (strange that the octopuses themselves flew ... but that will cut out). This way, the essence (DNA?) Of the species was preserved ... the question is, what for?
2) To what extent are the Reapers self-contained creatures? Probably faint, because it would be strange that they all share the same views on ... solving the problem of organic beings.
3) Finally, Shepard can "upload" his essence to the Crucible's program and control the Reapers, destroying the Catalyst in the process. On the other hand, the Reapers can control the organic in the same way (indoctrination).
4) The catalyst could be alone, one. A supercomputer that has shed its competition and has evolved over millions of years. The geths, note, are evolving from collective AI to individual individuals. The Reaper code did it.


He said so, and in fact, the game's creators squandered the potential of this thread a bit, because the Crucible was built over many cycles and each civilization added something from itself. Perhaps the idea of ??synthesis arose after analyzing the Crucible, which (after all) is the essence of thousands of civilizations.
The catalyst states that if an organic stuck to its window with a cosmic look, the "solution" ceases to be effective and others should be found. So it's rather hard to talk about the deliberate expectation of an organic Messiah who turned out to be Shepard: P

I think the ending is underdeveloped and the conspiracy theory (Shepard has been indoctrinated and the ending works in his head, if he chooses to destroy the Reapers only then has a chance to survive, i.e. wake up, break out of indoctrination, and bring about a real end).
We are waiting for a DLC with a real ending

[Kaikki]

As ME invariably reminds me of Reynolds, it's hard not to mention him in this conversation.
With Reynolds, the AI ??destroys developing civilizations as soon as they set off certain "traps" and these traps cannot be activated without the proper level of technology.
This AI was created because of the resource war - if life developed, in n billion years there would be no raw materials and a catastrophe of the galaxy or the universe (delete as appropriate) and that would hurt these creators a lot.
The story ends badly, of course, but with a glimmer of hope - the AI ??continues but bypasses the "human" part of the galaxy, unfortunately people in the meantime created WI which probably went crazy and flies around the galaxy and breaks the suns and planets apart. The survivors simply run away to new worlds.
However, in one of the cycles of destruction, some creatures managed to create an enclave in which minds live (the process of joining, unfortunately, destroys bodies) and they are so powerful that even the AI ??is afraid of them.


On the basis of this plot, it can be assumed that in the world of ME, people also strive for the destruction of their entire lives, so either you can mow this life from time to time so that it does not develop too quickly or you cut it completely. The Catalyst treats life as a valuable exhibit, so the reapers collect the DNA of the species and store it like we do with the bones of dinosaurs.
The catalyst is probably a para-god - either the creator of life in the universe, or just such a connected mind.

Questions arise:
Could a catalyst without a Crucible have any control over the reapers?
How much has history changed the fact that the reapers did not come through the citadel but "on foot"?
Why the harvesters "enter" through the citadel, since the bypass takes them only a few years and the result (paralyzing civilization) is achieved anyway?

The thesis of the catalyst that life is chaos and the universe is order is, of course, untenable because it is accurate, and vice versa. Entropy grows by itself. Probably Bioware was asleep in physics lessons.

[Irakhash]

1) It turns out that the Crucible is a catalyst for the Catalyst, and not as people would have liked, i.e. vice versa.

[Ciliren]

The Catalyst and the Crucible are like the Sheriff and his revolver - they were just meant to be built at the same time, but something went wrong and the Crucible wasn't built. It does not convince me that civilizations have figured out how to build it.
If so, what is his "first" role?

As for the questions:
We've been told all the time that the harvesters fall into the galaxy through a relay in the citadel, destroying the galaxy's row and blocking communication, and then spread across the galaxy, not so much destroying as storing DNA.
Unfortunately, it turned out that the closure of the citadel gave mankind only 2-3 years of peace, which in the scale of the cycle is simply an insignificant detail, so I assume that such a translation is untrue.
So what is the citadel for, and why do the reapers fall there?

I assume the Catalyst can only control the reapers when they are nearby, and this is the reason why the cycle always started this way.
Hence my question if anything changed when the Proteans reprogrammed the keepers and the reapers had to go around?

[Onirke]

For me, the Reapers are just those big machines, the rest of them are indoctrinated cannon fodder. I do not know what you mean. Kind of ships?
This is what I perceived as an anomaly in the Legion unit. From the point of view of optimal performance, individualism seems to be a regression here.
Well, I don't know how to perceive the Catalyst. Only as a cold, calculating and optimally calculating AI (perhaps it was so before the Crucible)? If you add feelings here, would it really be different to the organics? Its evolution would come full circle, returning to the existence of beings of flesh and blood. However, erasing life in space every now and then from the point of view of a sentient being seems to be a sick distortion. The catalyst would have to be skewed. On the other hand, for an emotionless AI it makes no sense to keep organics alive and periodically reset them.

My explanation combines both elements - calculating and sentient. As with the Emperor God (whose solution was sick).

Although my solution does not explain everything perfectly, it still suits me best. Catalyst's sentence does not necessarily mean that Shepard's appearance is not part of the plan, although it is rather clear from what he said. Then - I don't know - there is still no sense in doing so. Why keep these organics on and on? Waiting for what? (this is the question I'm starting with)
The catalyst may be an infinitely more perfect being, but it presents itself as a synthetic and was thus artificially created by some other entity. Therefore, I am not convinced by the Parabolic explanations.

Perhaps life is some kind of exhibit for him, but he collects it along the way, the main motivation of the cycles is to fight chaos (whatever it is), as the Reapers explain, and the Catalyst confirms.
If the goal is to reduce chaos, what is the point of cycles when life can be completely wiped out at once? Cycles mean that there is some meaning in the next birth and destruction of a civilization. They are not completely lost, each passes something on, and therefore some evolution takes place. And in this evolution I see sense, because I don't see any other thing.

[Matsui]

Ok, that is, the machines themselves. As you can read in the Codex, there are several types of these living ships (classification closer to the classification of ships in the navy). The EDI found, however, that the Reapers had failed to create a new unit from the Protheans, meaning that they did not store the essence of every previous species in this way. People were actually pretty cool stuff